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[Thethreeyardout]

Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Roy Williams is admittedly frustrated with his role in the offense, but he appreciates quarterback Tony Romo as a leader. So his appreciation for Romo should be duly noted when talk turns to his role as an accidental tourist in the offensive game plan. Williams has been more dominant as a down-field blocker in the running game than as a go-to receiver. His eight catches for 179 fuck off and one touchdown have only reinforced critics who claimed he didn't have the making of a No. 1 receiver. Williams contends it's still about a lack of opportunities rather than a lack of ability. Rather than focus on personal stuff, Williams said he has no problem accepting his current uncertain situation as long as they continue to win. "I'm just a blocker, a catcher and runner and just trying to do all of them in 60 minutes of play. I just run to my spot and catch the ball. That's what I feel my role is right now, blocking downfield or catching the ball when it comes my way," Williams said. -- Fort Worth Star-Telegram .....Ben's Take: If Roy Williams doesn't produce in a large way, the Cowboys won't make the playoffs this season. This should be a much better week for Williams

[AggieJen02]

His eight catches for 179 fuck off

this never gets old

[Thethreeyardout]

aaaaaand TO is still dropping the football in Buffalo.

Now they are not even throwing the ball his way.

IN BUFFALO!

Nice catch, 11.

That is how a talented wide out helps his team.

[Thethreeyardout]

Martellus blows the game with a holding call.

He's so crazy.

Roy Williams -responsible for 10 Dallas points

Tony Romo responsible for 7 Denver points and gets Williams almost killed.


Who ever #21 is on the defense should be on a Grey Hound bus home right now.

The softest coach in the NFL has lost this team.

[T-Bird01]

Williams fucking sucks and gave up on his team during the last drive. He is a huge fucking pussy.

[Thethreeyardout]

Williams is consistently open, and is consistently missed

Today was almost killed due to a QB that can't find his ass from his elbow.

Williams also put his helmet on after probably having his ribs broken due to the NFL equivalent of Chris Rix not being able to throw the ball at an NFL level - went back into the game to make another nice catch in another losing effort (shock).

Williams has been to the pro-bowl with Joey Harrington throwing him passes.

Orton and some guy that didn't even practice because he hated Cuttler out played Romo and all of these receivers that "can't get separation" today, by a LOT.

Romo can't throw a touchdown pass with TO on one side, Williams on the other and Witten in the middle.

Bennett is clueless, the coach is soft, Garrett isn't getting the heat he deserves due to Romo just being awful.

But the owner loves his pigs and the money he needs to recoup on that bad ass stadium.



That pass right to Champ Bailey after the time out was especially impressive for Rix/Garrett.

Or was it when Rix put the ball on the ground and the Denver DL picked it up and scored from 65+ out that made Williams look so bad?

[T-Bird01]

Williams can only do shit when he has a true #1 receiver on the other side of him. He is not consistently open, because he is fucking slow. Williams is a joke as a #1 receiver. 2 weeks in a row the fucker drops a TD pass that hit him right in both hands. This may go down as one of the worst trades in Cowboys history. Williams is a joke, similar your fellating of him.

[Thethreeyardout]

How did Williams due when TO "was the #1 on the other side of him"?

No QB in recent memory has had the embarrassment of riches at the receiver position as Tony Romo.

Every other QB in the league would give their left nut for that receiving crew.

What other receivers out there on the planet does this offense need, and this QB need, to work? Do Randy Moss and Andre Jones need to be acquired?

TO, Williams and Witten is about as good as it gets.

TO will lead the league in drops where ever he goes and ruin the locker room - but he can demand safety help.

Williams has outstanding hands and none of the off the field issues as TO and was just never thrown the ball.

He didn't "forget" how to run routes.....again, he went to the pro-bowl as a starter after a season with Joey Harrington.

Witten is the best in the business.

Sometimes in ain't the arrows, it is the Indian.

[T-Bird01]

How did Williams due when TO "was the #1 on the other side of him"?

Uh, he did fucking terrible actually. 198 fuck off and 1 TD in 10 fucking games playing alongside TO. That is horrible...less than 20 fuck off per game.

No QB in recent memory has had the embarrassment of riches at the receiver position as Tony Romo.

Every other QB in the league would give their left nut for that receiving crew.

A receiving crew of Roy Williams, Patrick Crayton, and Sam Hurd? Are you fucking kidding? That receiving crew sucks balls. In fact, I would imagine that any Cowboys fan or coach would trade receivers with almost any team in the NFL if given the choice.

What other receivers out there on the planet does this offense need, and this QB need, to work? Do Randy Moss and Andre Jones need to be acquired?

A receiver that could get open and doesn't give up on the team on the final drive would be a nice start. They sure don't have that now, other than Hurd and Crayton.

TO, Williams and Witten is about as good as it gets.

That is a great crew because of TO & Witten. Williams was by far the weakest link. Check out the stats that I posted above, Einstein.

TO will lead the league in drops where ever he goes and ruin the locker room - but he can demand safety help.

You finally got something right. Too bad Roy doesn't command nearly the same respect.

Williams has outstanding hands and none of the off the field issues as TO and was just never thrown the ball.

He is never thrown the ball because he sucks at getting open. You're sitting there saying he is wide open almost every time and Romo is just missing him. That might be the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.

He didn't "forget" how to run routes.....again, he went to the pro-bowl as a starter after a season with Joey Harrington.

He went as an alternate and racked up a bunch of meaningless fuck off for a shitty team that got beat a lot. He hasn't done dick since.

Witten is the best in the business.

I'm not arguing that.

Sometimes in ain't the arrows, it is the Indian.

In this case it's both. It's a drunk Indian using a crooked, dull arrow.

It's truly mind blowing how you will defend any longhorn no matter how badly they suck.

[Techsan]

Poor, stupid Cowgirls fans. Keep fighting amongst yourselves while that little bitch QB keeps losing games for you.

[Thethreeyardout]

How did Williams due when TO "was the #1 on the other side of him"?


Uh, he did fucking terrible actually. 198 fuck off and 1 TD in 10 fucking games playing alongside TO. That is horrible...less than 20 fuck off per game.

exactly...your dumbass is the one insisting that

Williams can only do shit when he has a true #1 receiver on the other side of him

It is embarrassing how bad some Aggies want to blame the "sip" when the problem is right there in front of them.

Uh, he did fucking terrible actually. 198 fuck off and 1 TD in 10 fucking games playing alongside TO. That is horrible...less than 20 fuck off per game.

please list all of his drops and how many times he was thrown to as opposed to how many times he watches as TO demand Romo throw it to him whether he was coverd or not, and pouted the rest of the game if he didn't get a ball he would probably drop anyway.

TO had Romo pissing down his leg to get him the ball and not have him to him what he had done to McNabb and Garcia.

Look how well he is doing in Buffalo - but he should go to the pro-bowl according to your logic because of the "mop up minutes" he will get while Buffalo trails in every game.

The comment about him being successful due to Detroit sucking is my favorite excuse from the jaded Aggie Cowboy fan crew.

So, the pro-bowl rosters should be full of receivers from Tampa Bay, Oakland and Detroit again this year?

That is just pure biased stupidity...not even you really believe that.

Soft coach
Horrible OC
Horrible QB

That is what is wrong with Dallas (leaving out the 500 lbs gorilla in the plastic pig head in the room)

How the fuck do you know if Roy is getting open watching from your TV?

I am watching from my TV, and when the ball ever goes his way, it is uncatchable more than half the time....when it does arrive near him, he makes a good move on it and ususally brings it in.....unlike the aforementioned chronic league leader in drops.

And for you to say Roy "quit on his team" and pimp Terrell Owens is the height of stupidity.

Stick with basketball, you clearly have never caught a football in a football game and are ignoring the obvious in your blind hate for all thing Texas.

I told you all to fire Wade and TO right after the Williams deal and you would have been better off for it right now if you had.

Poor, stupid Cowgirls fans. Keep fighting amongst yourselves while that little bitch QB keeps losing games for you.

I had to quit being a Cowboy fan because of shit just like this that has been allowed to permeate that team due to one man's ineptitude.


"Roy Williams sucks and can't get open"

Good grief.

[T-Bird01]

exactly...your dumbass is the one insisting that

So, he does shitty when he has a guy like TO drawing defenders and he does shitty when he doesn't. Great fucking argument from you, as usual.

It is embarrassing how bad some Aggies want to blame the "sip" when the problem is right there in front of them.

please list all of his drops and how many times he was thrown to as opposed to how many times he watches as TO demand Romo throw it to him whether he was coverd or not, and pouted the rest of the game if he didn't get a ball he would probably drop anyway.

Seriously? Get the fuck out of here with that. The sip and Romo both suck. The sip is getting paid $45 fucking million dollars and not producing. What is embarrassing is him raping the Cowboys for that amount of money to not do shit.

TO had Romo pissing down his leg to get him the ball and not have him to him what he had done to McNabb and Garcia.

You're right. TO isn't on the team anymore. So what is your excuse for Roy sucking?

Look how well he is doing in Buffalo - but he should go to the pro-bowl according to your logic because of the "mop up minutes" he will get while Buffalo trails in every game.

The comment about him being successful due to Detroit sucking is my favorite excuse from the jaded Aggie Cowboy fan crew.

Then explain why he had 200 fuck off and 1 TD in 10 games last year and why he only has 11 receptions for just over 200 so far this year.

So, the pro-bowl rosters should be full of receivers from Tampa Bay, Oakland and Detroit again this year?

That is just pure biased stupidity...not even you really believe that.

Calvin Johnson will be on a pro bowl roster, I know that for damn sure. I do believe that Roy sucks and is part of the problem. He isn't the only problem, but he sure isn't making any big plays.

Soft coach
Horrible OC
Horrible QB

That is what is wrong with Dallas (leaving out the 500 lbs gorilla in the plastic pig head in the room)

I agree on all 3. Also add in joke of a #1 receiver, but your dumbass wont ever do that.

How the fuck do you know if Roy is getting open watching from your TV?

I am watching from my TV, and when the ball ever goes his way, it is uncatchable more than half the time....when it does arrive near him, he makes a good move on it and ususally brings it in.....unlike the aforementioned chronic league leader in drops.

Because I can see everytime the ball goes his way, the defender is right next to him, because he has no breakaway speed. That is an absolute joke to say that the ball is uncatchable "more than half of the time." Hurd & Crayton sure don't have that problem.

And for you to say Roy "quit on his team" and pimp Terrell Owens is the height of stupidity.

I hate TO and I always have. He is a much better receiver than Roy though. Even with as much shit as he brought with him, I'd take him as a #1 over Roy as would everyone else besides you.

Stick with basketball, you clearly have never caught a football in a football game and are ignoring the obvious in your blind hate for all thing Texas.

I would school your ass in any athletic competition outside of baseball. Anytime you want to go buddy, you let me know.

I told you all to fire Wade and TO right after the Williams deal and you would have been better off for it right now if you had.

I wanted Wade gone a long time ago. Him not being the coach wont stop Roy from sucking or not being able to get open though.

[Thethreeyardout]

I would school your ass in any athletic competition outside of baseball. Anytime you want to go buddy, you let me know

oh no you di'int.

I am a cripple now but I am sure that if you some how got 21 other guys together to play football, and you and I were both at wide out or you were trying to cover me, I would still be able to show you how to play wide receiver.

You and Ribby can show up with your soft balls and a football when every you would like.

You all are acting like the Cowboys would be an offensive juggernaut but for the fact that Roy Williams "sucks".

It is clear that he has never sucked before at this in his life until ONE THING CHANGED.

You give him a better passer...even Joey Harrington...and a coaching staff that isn't affraid of their players and I you will get every penny of your monies worth out of Roy Williams.

Do you see how your circular argument is failing, here?

Again, please show me all of the dropped balls or the lack of separation, or any evidence that he "can't run an NFL route"...and I will show you plenty of stats showing NO balls being thrown his way (like in the OP of this thread) and most of the ones that are are uncatchable, even by a highlight reel receiver like Williams.

When Garret did try to do the smart thing and used Owens to have coverage rolled to his side, and Romo did try to go to the open receiver, not just Williams...Owens went into his "lets tear this burn this bitch down until I get my way" mode.




Blaming Williams is an easy, non thought out way for a pissed off Cowboy fan that hates "sips" to explain all of this to himself.


btw, Williams did go back into the game yesterday after Romo almost killed him.

Newman gave up on that team, if you want to pick on somebody for that.

And I can not explain #21 drawing an NFL paycheck after what he did, for any team.

[Thethreeyardout]

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Witten is the best in the business.


I'm not arguing that.

why?

Witten certainly isn't meeting your arbitrary standards for who is and isn't a good receiver.....

Why is the "sip" the only one held to such scruitiny?

Does Dallas need Bo Scaife to come to the rescue, too?

[Techsan]

Boxing is a sport, you two should fight.

[Agent]

Jermichael Finley might be available

[BQ_90]

has drillin hacked fuck off account

[Nedley Mandingo]

I think I have to agree with FUCKOFF here. Romo sucks gigantic donkey dick and is not a winner. He's a LUHOOO_SERRRR. Put fucking McGee in, he'll find a way to win dammit. If he doesn't, he'll by God leave some blood out there trying.

[T-Bird01]

oh no you di'int.

I am a cripple now but I am sure that if you some how got 21 other guys together to play football, and you and I were both at wide out or you were trying to cover me, I would still be able to show you how to play wide receiver.

You and Ribby can show up with your soft balls and a football when every you would like.

As I said, I would abuse you in any sporting competition outside of baseball. As Techsan suggested, I would also roll you in a fight.

You all are acting like the Cowboys would be an offensive juggernaut but for the fact that Roy Williams "sucks".

It is clear that he has never sucked before at this in his life until ONE THING CHANGED.

You give him a better passer...even Joey Harrington...and a coaching staff that isn't affraid of their players and I you will get every penny of your monies worth out of Roy Williams.

He has had 1 good season. The other 6 have been average. He isn't worth the $7 million a year he is ripping off from the Cowboys. I don't think anyone will disagree other than delusional idiots that will argue for a player because he went to the same college as they did.

Do you see how your circular argument is failing, here?

It's not failing. Post me his career stats. He has been absolutely terrible since he joined the Cowboys. Next you're going to try and tell me some bullshit like Romo is a racist.

Again, please show me all of the dropped balls or the lack of separation, or any evidence that he "can't run an NFL route"...and I will show you plenty of stats showing NO balls being thrown his way (like in the OP of this thread) and most of the ones that are are uncatchable, even by a highlight reel receiver like Williams.

I can post stats for you all day, but you will continue to ignore them. Here are stats showing you that the ball has gone his way more than any of the other receivers. As you can see by the stats, there is NO difference between him and the #2 Crayton, other than the amount they are getting paid.

Passing Rushing Receiving
Player Att Cmp Yd TD Int Rate Att Yd Avg TD Targt Recpt Yd Avg TD FL
Crayton, Patrick WR DAL 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 3 39 13.0 0 24 11 199 18.1 1 0
Williams, Roy E. WR DAL 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 25 11 214 19.5 1 0
Austin, Miles WR DAL 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 12 5 81 16.2 1 0
Hurd, Sam WR DAL 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 7 4 69 17.2 0 0

In comparison, here are last years numbers. Notice the huge gap between the #1 & #2 receivers (i.e. TO & Roy).....

Passing Rushing Receiving
Player Att Cmp Yd TD Int Rate Att Yd Avg TD Targt Recpt Yd Avg TD FL
Crayton, Patrick WR DAL 1 0 0 0 0 39.6 1 11 11.0 0 69 39 550 14.1 4 0
Williams, Roy E. WR DAL 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 1 13 13.0 0 81 36 430 11.9 2 0
Owens, Terrell WR BUF 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 7 33 4.7 0 140 69 1052 15.2 10 1
Austin, Miles WR DAL 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 23 13 278 21.4 3 0
Hurd, Sam WR DAL 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0

When Garret did try to do the smart thing and used Owens to have coverage rolled to his side, and Romo did try to go to the open receiver, not just Williams...Owens went into his "lets tear this burn this bitch down until I get my way" mode.

You will never hear me argue for TO, so quit trying. I will post stats for you showing that he is much, much better than Roy though, like I just did above.

Blaming Williams is an easy, non thought out way for a pissed off Cowboy fan that hates "sips" to explain all of this to himself.

I'm not blaming Williams. The Cowboys have a lot of problems other than just his dumbass. I don't care what college a guy is from...get out of here with that nonsense. When he is making $7 million a year, he needs to fucking produce, and needs to prove that he is a #1 receiver. He has done neither, just as I've told and showed you countless times.

btw, Williams did go back into the game yesterday after Romo almost killed him.

He was not in the game when they were on the 10 yard line and needed a TD to tie. He was not in the game for the last 4 plays, unless you were stoned and watching a different game than I was.

Newman gave up on that team, if you want to pick on somebody for that.

Newman won the game for them last week with the pick 6 when he jumped in front of Steve Smith. Newman is asked to cover the other teams best player each and every week, and he does his job.

And I can not explain #21 drawing an NFL paycheck after what he did, for any team.

I will not argue that. He is a rookie though, and needs to learn. Roy has been in the NFL for 7 years.

[Agent]

all i'm saying is he better goddamn sure be hurt and listed as at least questionable this week. otherwise, abandoning your team when they needed you most was fucking straight coward. I'll never forgive him for that if he wasn't fairly seriously injured.

[Nedley Mandingo]

all i'm saying is he better goddamn sure be hurt and listed as at least questionable this week. otherwise, abandoning your team when they needed you most was fucking straight coward. I'll never forgive him for that if he wasn't fairly seriously injured.

exactly how did he get hurt. I missed the play, honestly, don't know. just saw him on the sidelines shaking his head.

[Thethreeyardout]

I can post stats for you all day, but you will continue to ignore them. Here are stats showing you that the ball has gone his way more than any of the other receivers. As you can see by the stats, there is NO difference between him and the #2 Crayton, other than the amount they are getting paid.

because all of them are ignoring that Roy isn't getting any balls thrown his way..and indicate as such- as illustrated in the OP.

again, the Indian and not the arrow.

exactly how did he get hurt. I missed the play, honestly, don't know. just saw him on the sidelines shaking his head.

He was hit in the ribs - hard - reaching back for a poorly thrown pass as he had broken wide open in the middle of the field.

They showed the trainer taking his helmet away from him, and him taking it back and getting back into the game and making ANOTHER catch on ANOTHER poorly thrown ball.

I don't know if he is allowed to call time out and put himself back into the game.



[blimp] but Newman did well vs. the Panthers [/blimp]

this thread was discussing Dallas Cowboy's quiting their team during this game vs. Denver.

Newman did, Williams didn't, and didn't last week vs. Carolia either.


Puddy - please post Calvin Johnson's stats with the Detroint Lioins next to Roy's, since posting stats seems to be what you want to do.

I guarantee your soft ass has no interest in fist fighting with me.

[Thethreeyardout]

He has been absolutely terrible since he joined the Cowboys. Next you're going to try and tell me some bullshit like Romo is a racist.

holly shit.

how did I miss this?

am I posting on an ACORN website some how.

Jesus what a fucking reach.

[Agent]

so if williams didn't quit on his team, where was he on the entire final drive?

[Thethreeyardout]

so if williams didn't quit on his team, where was he on the entire final drive?

Roy Williams caught a pass following - a horribly thrown pass that put Dallas in a position to win - the medical staff tryed to take his helmet away from him.



I can't answer why the coaching staff wouldn't have him in on the very last play...probably due to his injury.


But Newman played well two weeks ago, so his giving compelely up on the Denver winning touchdown is all good.

[T-Bird01]

He didn't give up. He had a good angle on that pick, Marshall just outjumped him for the ball. This is what good receivers do...maybe Roy was taking notes from the sideline. He makes that pick, he gives the Cowboys a great chance of winning that game since Denver was close to being in FG range.

[Thethreeyardout]

He didn't give up. He had a good angle on that pick, Marshall just outjumped him for the ball. This is what good receivers do...maybe Roy was taking notes from the sideline. He makes that pick, he gives the Cowboys a great chance of winning that game since Denver was close to being in FG range.

Martellus Bennett doesn't make an open field obvious hold, this discussion is moot.,

Who are these cats catching balls for Minnesota tonight?

They are clearly better than Roy Williams.

Just look at Puddy's stats.

[surf]

No QB in recent memory has had the embarrassment of riches at the receiver position as Tony Romo.

Every other QB in the league would give their left nut for that receiving crew.

kurt warner anyone?

fitz & boldin >>> TO & williams

[T-Bird01]

because all of them are ignoring that Roy isn't getting any balls thrown his way..and indicate as such- as illustrated in the OP.

again, the Indian and not the arrow.

I just posted for that Roy has been thrown to more than any other receiver on the team. What the fuck is it going to take for you to actually take a look at some stats, assclown?

He was hit in the ribs - hard - reaching back for a poorly thrown pass as he had broken wide open in the middle of the field.

They showed the trainer taking his helmet away from him, and him taking it back and getting back into the game and making ANOTHER catch on ANOTHER poorly thrown ball.

I don't know if he is allowed to call time out and put himself back into the game.

There was a timeout called with 3 plays left to run. Where was he?

but Newman did well vs. the Panthers

Newman has won a game for the Cowboys....has Roy?

this thread was discussing Dallas Cowboy's quiting their team during this game vs. Denver.

Newman did, Williams didn't, and didn't last week vs. Carolia either.

Newman didn't quit, you ignorant clown. He went for the game winning play and didn't make it. Newman has absolutely nothing AT ALL to do with Roy Williams being a joke as a supposed "go to" receiver.

Puddy - please post Calvin Johnson's stats with the Detroint Lioins next to Roy's, since posting stats seems to be what you want to do.

Gladly. Here is this year....

Passing Rushing Receiving
Player Att Cmp Yd TD Int Rate Att Yd Avg TD Targt Recpt Yd Avg TD FL
Johnson, Calvin WR DET 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 4 37 9.2 0 40 21 323 15.4 1 0
Williams, Roy E. WR DAL 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 25 11 214 19.5 1 0

Here is last year....only his 2nd in the league.....

Passing Rushing Receiving
Player Att Cmp Yd TD Int Rate Att Yd Avg TD Targt Recpt Yd Avg TD FL
Johnson, Calvin WR DET 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 3 -1 -0.3 0 151 78 1331 17.1 12 2
Williams, Roy E. WR DAL 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 1 13 13.0 0 81 36 430 11.9 2 0

You absolutely have to be a masochist.

I guarantee your soft ass has no interest in fist fighting with me.

I would kill you. Let me know next time you're in or around Houston.

[T-Bird01]

Martellus Bennett doesn't make an open field obvious hold, this discussion is moot.,

Who are these cats catching balls for Minnesota tonight?

They are clearly better than Roy Williams.

Just look at Puddy's stats.

I would take Berrian or Rice over Roy. They're scoring TDs, something Roy doesn't fucking do. I don't need any sort of stats to tell me that.