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[Techsan]

What kind of contract to you think the 49ers have offered Crabtree? If he sits out a year, how many millions is he looking at losing?

I would assume that if he sits out this year, he would be lucky to sign next year for half of whatever the 49ers highest offer has been.

Dude is a Grade AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA moron.

[dag]

What kind of contract to you think the 49ers have offered Crabtree? If he sits out a year, how many millions is he looking at losing?

I would assume that if he sits out this year, he would be lucky to sign next year for half of whatever the 49ers highest offer has been.

Dude is a Grade AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA moron.

[dag]

What kind of contract to you think the 49ers have offered Crabtree? If he sits out a year, how many millions is he looking at losing?

I would assume that if he sits out this year, he would be lucky to sign next year for half of whatever the 49ers highest offer has been.

Dude is a Grade AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA moron.

the thing i don't understand is that he would be willing to go back into the draft, in which i don't think he would be drafted as high due to a perceived attitude he might have. plus, aside from him, the draft was kinda wr weak this year. next year he won't be considered #1 with guys like dez bryant coming out, plus he'll lose somewhere b/t 5-10 million this year, and even more when his draft ranking plummets

[surf]

if he sits a year he most likely won't even go in the first round

[Techsan]

Yep, dude needs to STFU and take whatever their best offer is and get to business. What a fucking idiot.

[Agent]

What kind of contract to you think the 49ers have offered Crabtree? If he sits out a year, how many millions is he looking at losing?

I would assume that if he sits out this year, he would be lucky to sign next year for half of whatever the 49ers highest offer has been.

Dude is a Grade AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA moron.

Let's not forget Damian Williams and Ryan Broyles along with Bryant next season.

To answer the question, Crabtree and his agent, Eugene Parker, have softened their stance from "top 3 money because Mel Kiper said I should have been top 3" to Heyward-Bey money (No. 7 pick).

There's some history here between Parker and the 49ers that hasn't gotten much press, if any. Parker negotiated a huge deal for Deion Sanders with the 49ers (at the time, the most money ever given to a defensive back). A large part of it was a deferred signing bonus. The NFL later enacted the "Deion Rule" which prevents rookies from deferring the majority of their salaries in favor of a signing bonus. The 49ers were called the kings of salary cap circumvention back then, and Parker was every bit as shrewd. (Parker later got Larry Fitzgerald the biggest contract for a rookie wide receiver in league history.

The reason I give that background is you have to know what Parker's motivation is. Parker wants to bust through slot money with Crabtree....the same way Boras does with MLB players. For the most part, the NFL teams have resisted doing that, and given the beating the 49ers have taken from Parker over the years, they have effectively dug in their heels. There is a ton of leaguewide pressure on the 49ers to hold strong here. But now...Parker has created a situation where there's a lot of pressure on him too. Parker has even said clearly a deal would not be reached before September.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY this deal doesn't get done. He's stupid, but he's not that stupid. They have already softened their stance that he "may sit out the season."

My guess is a deal gets done the day of the Cowboys/Niners game (this Friday?).

Out of the 49ers' original $4.1 million rookie pool, the club has about $1.825 million remaining. That means Crabtree's rookie cap figure can be no larger than $1.825 million. Obviously, that's not a big concern for either side. It's all about guaranteed money.


What have the 49ers offered? Only Crabs, Parker and the Niners know. Jerod Mayo, last year's #10 pick, signed for 5 years, 18.9 million, including 13.8 million in bonuses and guaranteed money. Heyward-Bey's deal guarantees him 23.5 million (7.65 million per year on average). That's what Crabtree wants. My guess is the Niners have offered him a 5 year deal worth about 6 mil per year on average.

See if I'm right about Friday being the day.

[dag]

i like crabtree and hope a deal gets done

[Techsan]

I turned down a 5 year 27 million dollar deal coming out of college, holding out for $30MM....now look where I'm at.

[dag]

I turned down a 5 year 27 million dollar deal coming out of college, holding out for $30MM....now look where I'm at.

definitely an ego thing for crabs

[Techsan]

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/08/26/no-hudd...-to-compromise/

[BQ_90]

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/08/26/no-hudd...-to-compromise/

He needs to sign, it never works out the other way

[Techsan]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/49...?urn=nfl,185476


sign the papers, guarantee yourself $16mm. dumbass.

will be wrong again before the day is over with.

[mse1892sip]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/49...?urn=nfl,185476


sign the papers, guarantee yourself $16mm. dumbass.

will be wrong again before the day is over with.

WTF!

[Agent]

at least i'm not wimberleyag's bitch anymore

[surf]

Niners beat writer Matt Maiocco "tweeted" the following: "In exchange w/ league source last night, said I thought Crabtree would sign Labor Day. His response: 'I hope you don't play the lottery.'"

[Agent]

pretty unbelievable that he's still holding out.

[Tex Pete]

pretty unbelievable that he's still holding out.

Incredibly stupid, IMO.

[Doc]

they're offering him 2mil LESS than the #12 pick, and he went #10.

sure we all say that its a no-brainer...take the money...blah blah blah, but its kind of a bullshit deal by the SF brass.

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

they're offering him 2mil LESS than the #12 pick, and he went #10.

sure we all say that its a no-brainer...take the money...blah blah blah, but its kind of a bullshit deal by the SF brass.

are you sure about that?

[sammy]

Crabs is being offered money that is consistent with #10, based on the #9 and #11 deals from this year.

Hes being a whiny bitch. And so are you.

Quit being a whiny bitch.

[Techsan]

they're offering him 2mil LESS than the #12 pick, and he went #10.

sure we all say that its a no-brainer...take the money...blah blah blah, but its kind of a bullshit deal by the SF brass.

well, take a bullshit deal and be an instant multi-millionaire or sit on the sidelines for a year, making zero dollars and cutting your value in half (minimum)

[BQ_90]

well, take a bullshit deal and be an instant multi-millionaire or sit on the sidelines for a year, making zero dollars and cutting your value in half (minimum)

please post that on TA for your fellow tards. They can't seem to grasp that, esp. the last part

[Techsan]

they're offering him 2mil LESS than the #12 pick, and he went #10.

sure we all say that its a no-brainer...take the money...blah blah blah, but its kind of a bullshit deal by the SF brass.

An analogy Doc can relate to.

You graduate from Tech and go to an industry job fair with 30 or so possible employers. After the first 9 grads get job offers, you and 3 others are fighting for the tenth offer. PapaJohns offers you a job. Dominos offers a guy a job. Then the number 12 guy gets an offer from Pizza Hut. The guy who got offered from Pizza Hut signs for $11.50 an hour plus tips. The guy from Dominos signs for $10/hr plus tips. Papa Johns offers you $10.50/hr plus tips. You don't sign because the Pizza Hut guy got an offer later, but is making more than you. You pout around for months, living off of a high interest loan you took out because you were sure you'd get $12-$13/hour. Meanwhile, the pizza Hut guy is living the life. Making deliveries in his brand new Chevy Cobalt and buying new clothes at the Clearance rack at Old Navy.

Who looks dumb here?

[surf]

An analogy Doc can relate to.

You graduate from Tech and go to an industry job fair with 30 or so possible employees. After the first 9 grads get job offers, you and 3 others are fighting for the tenth offer. PapaJohns offers you a job. Dominos offers a guy a job. Then the number 12 guy gets an offer from Pizza Hut. The guy who got offered from Pizza Hut signs for $11.50 an hour plus tips. The guy from Dominos signs for $10/hr plus tips. Papa Johns offers you $10.50/hr plus tips. You don't sign because the Pizza Hut guy got an offer later, but is making more than you. You pout around for months, living off of a high interest loan you took out because you were sure you'd get $12-$13/hour. Meanwhile, the pizza Hut guy is living the life. Making deliveries in his brand new Chevy Cobalt and buying new clothes at the Clearance rack at Old Navy.

Who looks dumb here?

[Agent]

out fucking standing, tardsan

[BQ_90]

sock up and go post that on TA. Would be an outstanding troll thread.

[yoshi]

brilliant

[Agent]

still not signed

[HeyMoe]

At the risk of setting off a round of Harrell-long underwear jokes, could he simply announce he will go to Canada, play up there for a couple of years, then come back and try the NFL again? Would the Niners still own his rights at that point?

[surf]

the longer he holds out the worse he's hurting himself. if he sits out the entire year and tries to go in the draft again next year, the money he will lose will be staggering