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#1 AggieJen02

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 07:05 PM

I would like to get some nice speakers and an amp for my truck. No subwoofer as of yet, but I may decide to add one later. I'm not looking for LOUD...just nice clear sound with good bass.

Background:
I have an '08 Ford F-150 Supercrew. It has the factory stereo (which I plan on keeping) and speakers. So far, I think I've decided to go with a 4 channel amp. Now I'm not sure which speakers to go with.
Whatever I decide to get, I'd like to get through Best Buy as I have $300 in gift cards to use there.

Here's what I've found for some speakers I'm considering. Yea or nay? And since my truck is four door, do I need to get two pair of these speakers? Or do I get different sizes for the front and back?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?sk...d=1202650463426

Everybody says to check Crutchfield, which I have been to determine which speakers will fit in my truck. And then using that to see if they stock those speakers at Best Buy. I'm not planning on spending a lot of money on this. I figured around $150 for an amp, and hopefully just a couple hundred on speakers (if that's possible).

Advice? What do you think of the speakers I linked?

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 08:31 PM

ive got an Orion 3002 amp that i would be willing to give you if you want it. i think its only 2 channel though. it hasnt been used in prob at least a year though so i cant give any guarantees on it. i ran two alpine 8s type s (i think) off of it in the back of a 4runner for awhile but no longer need it and already moved those subs to a friend. its nothing spectacular just a spare piece i have lying around.

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 08:36 PM

i guess i'm more concerned with what i actually need. since it's a four door truck, i need four speakers. but i don't know if i should settle for larger speakers in front, and something smaller for the back? or the same size for all four doors? if something smaller for the back, what size?

and i had someone on texags tell me i should look at component speakers. obviously, those are more expensive to install. is the quality really THAT much better with component speakers? and is there actually a very noticeable difference if i add an amp to the speakers, even without a subwoofer? i don't want to spend money on an amp unless i'm going to be able to tell the difference.

i just don't even know where to begin, and i don't want to just walk up to the guy at Best Buy for fear they'll try to sell me all this stuff i don't need.

What's good for a speaker....300W? 280W? Is Infinity one of the best brands I'll probably find for a reasonable price? Is it better than Pioneer?
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 08:38 PM

ya dont ask the best buy idiot thats still in high school. ill let some of the other guys that know more about speakers give you advice here, this isnt really my area as i let a buddy handle my car audio for me. just wanted to offer up that amp if you need it. no biggie either way.

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 09:01 PM

I used to be in the car audio biz back in the day. Components are the best sounding way to go but you may wind having to cut your doors to get em to fit. FWIW, I would get the best speakers you can that will fit in your factory spaces. When you add the sub it'll all sound great.
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 09:04 PM

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i guess i'm more concerned with what i actually need. since it's a four door truck, i need four speakers. but i don't know if i should settle for larger speakers in front, and something smaller for the back? or the same size for all four doors? if something smaller for the back, what size?

Depends on what youre looking for. It sounds like you just want something that sounds about like, or a little better than, the factory system with the addition of a sub. If thats the case, just replace the bullshit factory speakers with something you deem acceptable.


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and i had someone on texags tell me i should look at component speakers. obviously, those are more expensive to install. is the quality really THAT much better with component speakers? and is there actually a very noticeable difference if i add an amp to the speakers, even without a subwoofer? i don't want to spend money on an amp unless i'm going to be able to tell the difference.

Again, components will sound better than what you have now, and will generally sound better than an aftermarket non-component set, because the crossovers used are of higher quality, and the speakers used are assigned specific functions....rather than a 2 or 3 ways to 'do it all'. This is for a more 'serious' type set up, i dont think you're looking for that.

Adding an amp to the door/kick panel speakers will sound better, assuming some basic facts about the amp/speakers, but again, this is something i dont think you are looking for. This is for someone wanting a more serious set up than your typical joe truck owner who wants some thump.

You're going to need an amp to power a sub. How big will depend on what sub youre putting in.

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i just don't even know where to begin, and i don't want to just walk up to the guy at Best Buy for fear they'll try to sell me all this stuff i don't need.

What's good for a speaker....300W? 280W? Is Infinity one of the best brands I'll probably find for a reasonable price? Is it better than Pioneer?

Begin with deciding if its worth it to replace all your "factory location" speakers.

Then find a box that fits what your looking for (under the rear seat is a typical location for f-150's).

Find a sub to put in the box.

Find an amp that will adequately power the sub.

Install (or pay someone to) the amp and hook up the sub.



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Posted 04 June 2009 - 09:28 AM

I say we remove your backseat, replace it with a larger speaker box with 4 12's and a mattress on top. Ultimate fuck truck.

First, you need 4 speakers. All 6x8s. Ignore the component speaker idea. While nice it is probably overkill for what you want. I can install those for you in an afternoon. We can see how they sound and then go from there. I personally think that they will be way underpowered with your typically factory radio. To get more juice to them you have two options, new head unit or an amp.

If you just wanna add some bass, you could take yoshi's amp, and about 150 dollars worth of shit from ebay and add a little thump.




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Posted 04 June 2009 - 11:47 AM

QUOTE (Scot @ Jun 4 2009, 09:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I say we remove your backseat, replace it with a larger speaker box with 4 12's and a mattress on top. Ultimate fuck truck.

First, you need 4 speakers. All 6x8s. Ignore the component speaker idea. While nice it is probably overkill for what you want. I can install those for you in an afternoon. We can see how they sound and then go from there.



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Posted 04 June 2009 - 12:58 PM

Fucking cock blocker

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 03:47 PM

QUOTE (Scot @ Jun 4 2009, 08:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you just wanna add some bass, you could take yoshi's amp, and about 150 dollars worth of shit from ebay and add a little thump.


bandpass box with some 12's and it's thump thump time. replace your factory speakers. probably 4x6 in the front and 6x9 in the back with some 3" tweets. that's the usual setup in a ford
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Posted 04 June 2009 - 03:49 PM

btw. i can be there in 19 or hours if you wanna add the mattress in for the install. either that or try not to lay near one of the edges of the box
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Posted 04 June 2009 - 04:08 PM

QUOTE (surf @ Jun 4 2009, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
btw. i can be there in 19 or hours if you wanna add the mattress in for the install. either that or try not to lay near one of the edges of the box

Get on a fucking plane you dipshit.

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 04:11 PM

i knew that softball wouldn't stay out there long
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Posted 04 June 2009 - 05:00 PM

QUOTE (surf @ Jun 4 2009, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
bandpass box with some 12's and it's thump thump time. replace your factory speakers. probably 4x6 in the front and 6x9 in the back with some 3" tweets. that's the usual setup in a ford



why am i not surprised this trailer trash redneck chimed in on this topic

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 05:50 PM

i'm not necessarily looking for a lot of bass. i don't want to be one of those vatos driving down the street whose bass from their car rattles everyone's house windows. i don't listen to my stereo loudly. i just want better sound out of it. right now, there is practically zero bass from the factory speakers. and when i plug in my ipod, if you turn it up the slightest bit, the speakers get staticky.

scot & i have ridden in agent's denali before, and it sounds awesome. rich, clear bass. and i don't think it has an actual subwoofer.

so, to get that same sound (aside from buying super expensive bose speakers or something), what would I need? an amp & new speakers? or an amp and subwoofer?
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Posted 04 June 2009 - 06:20 PM

Amp and speakers.

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 06:21 PM

There is no sub in agent's or my truck. However, it does have the benefit of components which is going to give more clarity.

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 06:36 PM

even if i keep the factory stereo, it should still sound much better with just an amp and new speakers?
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Posted 04 June 2009 - 06:40 PM

QUOTE (AggieJen02 @ Jun 4 2009, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
even if i keep the factory stereo, it should still sound much better with just an amp and new speakers?

Way better. That factory stereo is pushing crap speakers with not enough power. See if Best buy can get you some 5x7 Alpine S series speakers

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 06:45 PM

QUOTE (dag @ Jun 4 2009, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
why am i not surprised this trailer trash redneck chimed in on this topic



robbed some 4 yr old of his polo and put extra starch on the collar before making that post
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Posted 04 June 2009 - 08:11 PM

QUOTE (surf @ Jun 4 2009, 06:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
robbed some 4 yr old of his polo and put extra starch on the collar before making that post


he clearly also ripped a sleeve, a hole in the middle torso area, paired it with some black jeans with holes in the knees, and then accidently stuck the syringe up his saran wrapped crevice instead of in his butt cheek

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 08:13 PM

do f-150s have room under the rear seats for a box? i think we have a ported box from a titan that was totaled but the box is still fine if you want that too. may have to slim it down some but it was a badass box when we built it.

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 08:42 PM

there's very little room beneath the seat. it has to be a custom box. not sure the dimensions though.

i'm not even sure i'm going to go with a sub at first. i might just go with the amp and some nice speakers. and then later if i decide i want a sub i'll go that route.

but i do appreciate the offer. i'll keep it in mind.
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Posted 04 June 2009 - 08:47 PM

btw dags, i framed those airline tickets from that ill fated trip and hung them up in our bedroom so that my wife is reminded of the hell she caused every fucking day
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Posted 04 June 2009 - 08:51 PM

np

id hold off on subs too until you hear your new speakers. that amp isnt that powerful and will just give you a lil thump anyway. if it was badass i would have ebayed that shit and raked on it already. its at best a mid range type.

the titan box had jl 8s in it now that i think about it and all the amps were bolted to the back of the seats. prob wont work on a ford.

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 08:52 PM

QUOTE (surf @ Jun 4 2009, 08:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
btw dags, i framed those airline tickets from that ill fated trip and hung them up in our bedroom so that my wife is reminded of the hell she caused every fucking day


hell SHE caused? YOU were the gigantic puss bag from what i remember.

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 08:53 PM

she was the one who refused to get back on the plane in atlanta
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Posted 04 June 2009 - 09:26 PM

you havent responded to the thread about the site issues. do you want me to fix them or not?

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 03:30 PM

pretty sure you can't because of the encoding by invision on their files. i don't own the board, i'm leasing it. if i owned it, i would be able to edit the files i need to fix the issue
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Posted 05 June 2009 - 06:07 PM

got it





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