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#1 BQ_90

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 06:51 PM

Can he really coach this year if he doesn't sign the deal. Lame duck head coaches can fucking kill it for the next guy (see Fran).

Also I'm surprised that most of the tech fans are siding with the AD. Seems to me Leach has done more for Tech than the AD has.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 06:55 PM

myers is still the AD, right?

he brought in leach so i'd say he's done just as much...throw in the BK hire and he's solid.

i'm a fan of myers. pretty good guy.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 06:59 PM

QUOTE (houstontexan @ Feb 9 2009, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
myers is still the AD, right?

he brought in leach so i'd say he's done just as much...throw in the BK hire and he's solid.

i'm a fan of myers. pretty good guy.


Long term Knight hasn't done shit. No they have to put up with junior taking them nowhere.

Myers hasn't done shit. Outside of football they stink.

Sometime IMO you don't fuck with things. I've started to believe we should not have fired RC.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 07:33 PM

what exactly is the deal with leach? i'm too lazy to look it up
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 08:15 PM

QUOTE (surf @ Feb 9 2009, 06:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what exactly is the deal with leach? i'm too lazy to look it up


won't sign deal after tech added a bunch of stuff to it.

Boils down to they want a higher buy out clause, him to inform school before he can talk with somebody else, and some IMO salary issues.

Link to shit

this is suppose to be the letter exchanges between Leach and Tech.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 09:11 PM

i would like to hear more non flame talk about this as well

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 09:45 PM

QUOTE (BQ_90 @ Feb 9 2009, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Long term Knight hasn't done shit. No they have to put up with junior taking them nowhere.

Myers hasn't done shit. Outside of football they stink.

Sometime IMO you don't fuck with things. I've started to believe we should not have fired RC.


Agree on Myers, disagree on firing RC....we just hired the wrong mother fucker to replace him (maybe twice....jury's out on Sherman).

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 09:55 PM

Choice #1. Leach stays and is happy in doing so. They come to terms that they all agree upon.
Choice #2. (and not too far behind #1) Tech hires Briles away from Baylor behind closed doors. Announce it in the same press conference that they fire Leach. (I admittedly don't know much about Briles, but he seemed to do pretty good at Baylor.)
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 10:06 PM

I think Techsan has it right.

That being said, I don't think Leach is going anywhere. He's got nowhere to go at this time of the year!

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 11:10 PM

Seems to me Leach is pushing it a bit too far for Tech. All coaches are mercenary and deep down fans know this. But all the same they want their coach to sing their school songs with gusto, bleed (orange, red, maroon) and say there's no where they'd rather be than (Austin, Lubbock, College Station). IMHO Leach has made it just a little too plain that it wouldn't break his heart to be shut of Lubbock. This is a BCG deal but on a different stage with different players.

I'm no fan of Tech, but Leach doesn't know how good he has it. He should just STFU, sign the deal, continue to win 8-9 games a year, torment the Aggies, bit off a piece of Bevo's ass every three years and the techs will probably name the next freeway after him. I suspect that burning his bridges in Lubbock, taking on a high pressure, high expectation job at a bigger school would be the biggest mistake of his coaching life.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 11:12 PM

except does Tech want to fire leach now. I'm not so sure Briles jumps to tech. Plus what makes him so special.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 11:41 PM

QUOTE (BohunkAg @ Feb 9 2009, 09:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Techsan has it right.

That being said, I don't think Leach is going anywhere. He's got nowhere to go at this time of the year!


I don't want Leach there if he doesn't want to be there. If he is going to sign a deal, whatever it may be, then rack up 40,000 frequent flyer miles every offseason hunting for new jobs, then it is time to go.

Also, if they were to hire Briles and announce him, I'd like them to announce him as HC before they announced Leach's firing. I'd like to see something like this happen

Meyers: "We're pleased to announce Art Briles as the new HC at TTU."

-A brief statement from Briles.-

Meyers: "Mike Leach will be unemployed this season. Mike, you have 10 minutes to clean all your pirate shit out of Art's office before it is given to your 6 remaining loyal fans."
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 12:00 AM

I think most people forget what a step-child tech was before Leach got there.

Raiders should suck his dick to keep him there.

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 12:11 AM

QUOTE (roveram @ Feb 9 2009, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think most people forget what a step-child tech was before Leach got there.

Raiders should suck his dick to keep him there.


Just to go through this every offseason? I don't like the fact that he whores himself out all of the time.

Couldn't they structure his contract to where he gets a massive lump sum at the end of the fifth year? I think the current offer is 12.7MM over 5 years. What if they were to give him 1.25MM guaranteed money each year, then if he completes his 5th year then give him a 12.7MM-(5*1.25MM) bonus at the end of the MNC season? Seems like that might give him incentive to stick around.
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 08:48 AM

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I don't want Leach there if he doesn't want to be there. If he is going to sign a deal, whatever it may be, then rack up 40,000 frequent flyer miles every offseason hunting for new jobs, then it is time to go.

Also, if they were to hire Briles and announce him, I'd like them to announce him as HC before they announced Leach's firing. I'd like to see something like this happen

Meyers: "We're pleased to announce Art Briles as the new HC at TTU."

-A brief statement from Briles.-

Meyers: "Mike Leach will be unemployed this season. Mike, you have 10 minutes to clean all your pirate shit out of Art's office before it is given to your 6 remaining loyal fans."


This would be hilarious. I vote for this scenario. Could an AD give his coach a bigger swift kick in the balls?

Do you guys think Briles will automatically jump ship? What makes him so good anyway? Leach didnt just win games for you, he gave you an identity. Can Briles give you that?

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 01:39 PM

QUOTE (yoshi @ Feb 10 2009, 07:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This would be hilarious. I vote for this scenario. Could an AD give his coach a bigger swift kick in the balls?

Do you guys think Briles will automatically jump ship? What makes him so good anyway? Leach didnt just win games for you, he gave you an identity. Can Briles give you that?


This is exactly what Bum Bright did to Tom Wilson back in the day. Bright started shopping Wilson's job to Bo Schembechler, Jimmy Johnson and Jackie Sherrill without firing Wilson first. There was even a story that when Bright sold the Cowboys to Jerry Jones, he offered to fire Tom Landry himself to spare Jones from being known as "the sumbitch who fired Tom Landry". Bright was the very definition of "I don't give a fuck"
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 03:24 PM

I wish Bum Bright was still with us if for no other reason than we need a rich Ag who won't accept this mediocrity-to-suck in football. He's the kind of guy who would be in Byrne's ear telling him to cut bait with Fran after '05. The kind of guy who would've gotten us Butch Davis.

BTW, here's Leach at The White House back in mid December. He's still got that Raider spirit. I think he stays for a long time.


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Posted 11 February 2009 - 03:24 PM

[quote name='Play' date='Feb 11 2009, 02:24 PM' post='463367']
I wish Bum Bright was still with us if for no other reason than we need a rich Ag who won't accept this mediocrity-to-suck in football. He's the kind of guy who would be in Byrne's ear telling him to cut bait with Fran after '05. The kind of guy who would've gotten us Butch Davis.

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Posted 15 February 2009 - 02:46 AM

First of all they need to send Meyers packing. The only reason he was named AD was because he was still on the payroll when they shit canned his ass from coaching. The whole love hate between him and Leach is because Montford went above his head to hire the selection committee when Leach came in 2000. The committee gave them three canidates Leach, Rich Rod, & Mark Richt. Meyers had nothing to do with Leach being hired and from what I heard has always had a stick up his ass about it. I'm not taking Leach's side in this clusterfuck just summing up some history. Thus being said if Leach leaves or is shown the door I'm all for Art Briles coming in and taking over. I know Art personally and I think he would jump at the shot to come back to Tech. He went to high school with track coach Wes Kttley and most his family lives down the road in Haskell. He has great ties with Texas High School Coaches Assc. and gives a shit about the defensive side of the ball.





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