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[Sooner Born]

Does it seem like some teams just took the entire month off? Or at the very least, practiced for next year and let the seniors do what they want.

I can't imagine being a team like Bama. You're in the running for the MNC until the last game of the regular season. At that point, what motivation do you have to win a bowl game? It's like having to play the game for third place.

[BQ_90]

Fran's team never seemed to show up. I think some view it as vacation. Also Utah used the SEC championship game to come up with a good game plan. IMO Alabama's youth finally showed itself.

[dag]

bama's offense really missed andre smith last night. i guarandamntee you that one player made all the differnce in the game. bama could not run the ball and jpw had no pocket presence due to the fact it was collapsing every second. they were getting torn up on the left side.

[Techsan]

Yes, it seems like a lot of teams took the entire month off. Lots of sloppy games and teams not playing as well as they did during the season.

[Thethreeyardout]

I don't know, but I loved the shots of Saban blowing a fuse.

[BQ_90]

Maybe it was always like this. Remember most of these game used to not be on tv. I don't know maybe it's the Aggie history in bowl games, but I really could give a shit about bowl games other than the BCS ones.

Maybe the more the better doesn't fit the 900 bowls they have now.

[HeyMoe]

Someday I'd like to a see a coach say "screw all this reward for the players" shit and keep his team on campus practicing until 24 hours before the game. The bowl people would scream bloody murder and the players might be pissed, but I guarantee you that team would probably be more intense than the one who went to the site a week early and spent the week posing for pictures with Mickey Mouse or stuffing their faces at Lawry's.

[HeyMoe]

Maybe it was always like this. Remember most of these game used to not be on tv. I don't know maybe it's the Aggie history in bowl games, but I really could give a shit about bowl games other than the BCS ones.

Maybe the more the better doesn't fit the 900 bowls they have now.

Motivation in bowls is everything. Many times a bowl will feature one team that is excited to be there and another that's bummed because they expected better.

In 1975 A&M blew an outright conference championship, Cotton Bowl berth and possible national championship by losing to Arkansas the last game of the season. Instead they wound up in the Liberty Bowl and slept walked their way to a loss.

The next year A&M lost two conference games early and was in real danger of not making a bowl at all. Instead they righted themselves, won every game the rest of the year and played their way into the Sun Bowl, where they beat the shit out of a good Florida team.

In 1990 A&M went to the Holiday Bowl where they had to listen to BYU bitch all week about the fact that the Cougars didn't wind up in a better bowl. RC used that to motivate his team and the Aggies destroyed BYU.

In 1992 A&M was 12-0 going into the Cotton Bowl against Notre Dame and their was some talk from Aggie players that they were disappointed that they weren't getting to play for a national title. Lou Holtz used that to motivate the Irish to beat the shit outta A&M, which they did.

[dag]

in 2008 texas tech had a great season and were snubbed of a bcs game, thus losing to an inferior ole miss team in the cotton bowl. in 2004 cal was snubbed of a bcs bid and loss to a lesser tech team in the holiday bowl

[Sooner Born]

Motivation in bowls is everything. Many times a bowl will feature one team that is excited to be there and another that's bummed because they expected better.

Yep. OU had nothing to play for the last two years in the BCS games. They should have won both and lost to an upstart and undefeated Boise State looking to make a statement and a motivated WVU team with a coach playing for his coaching life.

[BohunkAg]

bama's offense really missed andre smith last night. i guarandamntee you that one player made all the differnce in the game. bama could not run the ball and jpw had no pocket presence due to the fact it was collapsing every second. they were getting torn up on the left side.

This goes to my point that Fran's biggest shortcoming was letting the O-Line and D-Line go to shit, and it killed us on into this year.

[dag]

This goes to my point that Fran's biggest shortcoming was letting the O-Line and D-Line go to shit, and it killed us on into this year.

the game is won in the trenches, no doubt. but we have a need this year and that's linebackers. we cannot fill up those holes and stop the run.

[HeyMoe]

This goes to my point that Fran's biggest shortcoming was letting the O-Line and D-Line go to shit, and it killed us on into this year.

Agreed. That's one reason I'd be more excited to see us sign two 4 star linemen instead of this 5 star back we just got a commit from.

[Tex Pete]

Does it seem like some teams just took the entire month off? Or at the very least, practiced for next year and let the seniors do what they want.

I can't imagine being a team like Bama. You're in the running for the MNC until the last game of the regular season. At that point, what motivation do you have to win a bowl game? It's like having to play the game for third place.

Bama was overrated all year. They didn't beat any tough teams. Spare me any Georgia or Clemson talk.

Utah was the better team all year, and beat that ass accordingly.

I do think Tech is better than Ole Miss.

[Sooner Born]

I do think Tech is better than Ole Miss.

So head to head means nothing?

[Tex Pete]

So head to head means nothing?

I didn't say they are better. I said I think they are.

Why would a Sooner ever care about head to head?

[houstontexan]

In 1975 A&M blew an outright conference championship, Cotton Bowl berth and possible national championship by losing to Arkansas the last game of the season. Instead they wound up in the Liberty Bowl and slept walked their way to a loss.

see kstate vs purdue in 98.

kstate was the best team in the nation and blew it vs. a&m. they were left out of the bcs and ended up in the friggin alamo and looked so uninspired.

[Sooner Born]

I didn't say they are better. I said I think they are.

Why would a Sooner ever care about head to head?

easy killer. Just having a laugh at your expense, that's all.

[WingRight]

Does it seem like some teams just took the entire month off? Or at the very least, practiced for next year and let the seniors do what they want.

I can't imagine being a team like Bama. You're in the running for the MNC until the last game of the regular season. At that point, what motivation do you have to win a bowl game? It's like having to play the game for third place.

I get that distinct feeling when I watch OU play bowl games, yes. Actually, with kids more tuned in these days to the atmosphere set by the media (i.e. the BCS champ game is all that matters), it's not surprising to see that some pay less attention to bowl games than they should. That being said, I don't get why certain teams are able to maintain focus and others don't. Modern team dynamics are something that escapes me, I don't know about you guys. You know the Nicktator gets his guys ready to play...not like they are a poorly coached team. Shit if I could figure it out, then I'd be living at Valley Ranch making 7 mil a year.

[BillJack]

This is one of the reasons why a playoff is needed. A team works their ass off the entire season and is rewarded with what? The Cotton Bowl? You're not teaching the ethics of hard work with this BCS bullshit.

I'm using Tech as the most recent example, but teams like them deserve a shot at a meaningful post season. They and schools like them deserve a better reward for their overall body of work. The fact that Tech lost isn't the issue. Give the teams that earn a shot the shot.

[BohunkAg]

This is one of the reasons why a playoff is needed. A team works their ass off the entire season and is rewarded with what? The Cotton Bowl? You're not teaching the ethics of hard work with this BCS bullshit.

I'm using Tech as the most recent example, but teams like them deserve a shot at a meaningful post season. They and schools like them deserve a better reward for their overall body of work. The fact that Tech lost isn't the issue. Give the teams that earn a shot the shot.

Missouri last year is another good example of this.

[Tex Pete]

This is one of the reasons why a playoff is needed. A team works their ass off the entire season and is rewarded with what? The Cotton Bowl? You're not teaching the ethics of hard work with this BCS bullshit.

I'm using Tech as the most recent example, but teams like them deserve a shot at a meaningful post season. They and schools like them deserve a better reward for their overall body of work. The fact that Tech lost isn't the issue. Give the teams that earn a shot the shot.

I got the impression that Texas didn't feel like the Fiesta Bowl was much of a reward, either. As a matter of fact, the only "meaningful" bowl game, OU vs. Florida, isn't really meaningful either.

[Scot]

I got the impression that Texas didn't feel like the Fiesta Bowl was much of a reward, either. As a matter of fact, the only "meaningful" bowl game, OU vs. Florida, isn't really meaningful either.

The two best teams are playing against each other. What is not meaningful about that?

[Tex Pete]

The two best teams are playing against each other. What is not meaningful about that?

Thank you, Ukrainian judge.

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

The two best teams are playing against each other. What is not meaningful about that?

The best team isn't playing. Utes FTW.

[Tex Pete]

The best team isn't playing. Utes FTW.

Why the hell not?!

[Scot]

Thank you, Ukrainian judge.

You fags lost to a crappy tech team and barely beat ohio state. Get over it, you aren't in the top 2

[Tex Pete]

You fags lost to a crappy tech team and barely beat ohio state. Get over it, you aren't in the top 2

I am certainly over it, but there is nothing objective about it.

We should just have judges in the endzones. TDs should count more if the scoring player does a pirouette crossing the goal line.

[Scot]

I am certainly over it, but there is nothing objective about it.

We should just have judges in the endzones. TDs should count more if the scoring player does a pirouette crossing the goal line.

Of course a tsip would want that. queer.

[mse1892sip]

Good Lord you two should take it to TexAgs, or has this just turned into an arm of the site.

Of course if this same thing happened to the Ags that happened to Texas, Scot would just grin and take it and not say a word.

Edited by mse1892sip, 07 January 2009 - 12:47 PM.