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[BQ_90]

going with cheesedick with what 5 or 6 fucking wins to his HC resume.

No way this can't be spun as hiring the white guy over the black guy. Whether it's true or not is doubt will overshadow everything. They will get negatively recruited like a muthafucker with every black player.

This could really fuck them up long term. They have pissed off just about everybody they could on this situation. This could wipe out an entire athletic department and school administration.

[Thethreeyardout]

dude, nobody wanted that job.

they are lucky Chizik was fixing to get fired or they wouldn't have gotten him either.

that place is a train wreck and an IMPOSSIBLE position for a new coach in a major conference.

they have one wing nut donor calling all of the shots - who doesn't have the first clue.

I think he had them convinced that if they let TT go that all of the A list guys would come a runnin'.....and NONE of them did.

That is how they got down to Chizik, and, like I said, if Chizik would have been at all successful at ISU, I am pretty sure he would have told them to go fuck themselves as well.

That is a bad deal down there.....real bad.

[BQ_90]

funny think is I think leach would have taken if offered. But I don't think they offered.

The race issue could fucking kill them. I'd think he'd have trouble getting assistant coaches to come. You got to know that the shit could blow up with the AD, school pres. any fucking minute.

You know fucking Saben is laughing his fucking ass off. Fucking Auburn torpedoes themselves.

[houstontexan]

haven't thought of it from that perspective.

wow. they're going to get murdered on the recruiting trail.

i will say that auburn is hardly a place where no one can succeed. they went undefeated, what 3 years ago?

still getting 80k plus with a great location, great tradition, and they have talent there.

[BohunkAg]

haven't thought of it from that perspective.

wow. they're going to get murdered on the recruiting trail.

i will say that auburn is hardly a place where no one can succeed. they went undefeated, what 3 years ago?

still getting 80k plus with a great location, great tradition, and they have talent there.

That fucking sounds like us when RC got let go.

They're fucked.

[houstontexan]

bowden actually won a couple bowl games if i recall correctly.

[BohunkAg]

Auburn and A&M might be two of the most comparable schools in the country as far as our football programs go........

[houstontexan]

auburn's come through when it counts.

a&m and clemson are the two most comparable programs. good winning tradition, top 10 atmosphere, rabid fans, good schools, military backgrounds, howard's rock and 12th man....and neither can EVER do shit when push comes to shove on the national scene to really make it happen.

[houstontexan]

i do believe auburn's a helluva comparison, but it just seems they've come through in the clutch way more often in pressure situations, bowl games than a&m.

[Timmy Chang]

I'm on an email thread with several delusional SEC (Auburn/Bama) fans.

Apparently Auburn didn't hire Gene Chizik because they couldn't find another coach. The situation was all orchestrated by an agent that was blackmailing them for millions of dollars:

I just got this forwarded to me. It makes a whole lotta sense to me....




Get the popcorn, get comfortable, and let me tell you a tale. I can neither verify nor deny the authenticity of this story. However, I can verify that there are many truths in it than can be proved. That being said enjoy.

I got these facts from a buddy of mine who is not in the habit of telling tall tales. I'll just call him "Benny". Here's the tale:

Some Auburn relatives were over this past weekend, some of whom are fairly well connected to the program at Auburn and their boosters.

The night Alabama drilled Auburn 36-0, a prominent Auburn booster (not the usual bank-owning one but one who sells pressure-treated wood and wears a yellow hat) made a phone call. This may have been a $5.1 million phone call.

Since he knows most of the SEC coaches on a first-name basis and shoots ads with many of them, he has their personal private phone numbers. So he calls Houston Nutt over in Mississippi and asks what it might take to have Houston change his address again to Auburn.

Apparently, Auburn has a nasty habit of stealing coaches from Ole Miss, but Nutt tells old Yella Fella that he can't take the hit on the credibility scale right now for that kind of move, but thanks.

What many people may not know or may have forgotten is the infamous "Jet Gate" scandal. That was where Bobby Lowder boarded a jet and flew to Louisville to offer then Head Coach Bobby Petrino the head coaching job at Auburn.

Trouble was, Auburn had a head coach who was doing a fairly good job and when word leaked out, the fans and much of administration rallied so strongly that Tuberville was bulletproof. He was now able to snub his nose to Lowder, Pat Dye, and the administration—and boosters that wanted him gone.

These were not men who took a snubbing well. They bade their time until they felt the fans would no longer be a factor. Surely Auburn missing a bowl game, being drilled by Alabama, and the whole Tony Franklin fiasco took all the aces out of Tuberville's hand.

Now here's where it gets interesting. Following "Jet Gate", Tommy had a unique non-interference clause put in his last contract. Auburn pledged that neither the school president nor athletics director or anyone acting under their authority "shall discuss or negotiate directly or indirectly Auburn's prospective employment of any other person as Head Football Coach of Auburn" without giving Tuberville prior notice.

In non-lawyerese, it basically means that if Auburn got caught monkeying around with a new coach behind Tommy's back again he gets paid—a lot.

Unfortunately for Auburn, Nutt's agent is Jimmy Sexton and that just happens to be
Tuberville's agent too. Nutt drops this little nugget to Sexton and Tommy walks in the following Monday discussing his intentions to resign and wants his money now that he knows his contract has been breached.

Now Tuberville can get the money AND leave and coach elsewhere, in effect getting double pay for the next three years! A nice retirement package indeed. Plus, he gets to have the last laugh and snub the backstabbers one more time.

So maybe Auburn was right, maybe Tuberville really did resign. Why wouldn't he? Multi-day discussions ensued, and I'm sure there were lawyers involved. I'm sure it was painfully explained that old Yella Fella could and would be legally held to be an "official booster" much to the dismay of Auburn and the bad boy boosters.

In the end, we see Tuberville's official resignation on December 3 and Auburn paying him the buyout anyway because according to Auburn, it "is the right thing to do." Yes, it's the right thing under the contract. Otherwise, who pays buyouts for resignations, right?

Now, guess who Gene Chizik's agent is? Ding Ding Ding! You are right if you guessed Jimmy Sexton. Now, how does Auburn keep "Jet Gate II" from hitting the front of ESPN in an embarrassing manner? The fans would simply go mad.

Hmmm, perhaps by hiring a Sexton client who needs to get out of his personal football coaching hell known as Iowa State? How else is he going to go anywhere with that 5-19 record?

So, Tuberville walks away with $5.1 million and change and the right to sign another big contract with another team, Nutt gets a nice salary bump and an extension when Ole Miss gets wind of their coach being dangled some bait, and Chiznik gets a big salary increase and a chance from jump a sinking ship into a head coaching job at a big time SEC school.

And Sexton makes almost a million dollars in new commissions off the three new deals. This seems to explain the inexplicable way in which this all went down.

Will we ever know? Not until Jimmy Sexton writes his tell all book, "Tales of the Super Sports Agent." But it's the best version I've heard so far.

LOLcopter.

[Thethreeyardout]

I have always believed that that "jet gate" deal played a bigger part in this than was making the news.

No fucking way an A list coach wants to go there to die.

[BohunkAg]

Wow! If true, Auburn is WAY more fucked up than A&M.

Sexton has a reputation as a badass agent, but this is almost too funny/good to be true!

[Timmy Chang]

I honestly don't think any of it is true. I think they can't come to terms with the fact that they hired Gene Chizik because it's the best they can do. And the gift to Tubs was much like the gift to Dennis last year, ie it's what it took to get him to resign. They can call it whatever they want.

There are several problems with this story. One being the contract clause. Tubs' contract calls for the payment if someone at auburn with express authority reaches out to another coach and/or university. There is no way Auburn would feel like it owed tuberville $5M over a booster making a phone call to gauge interest.

Also, I'm not sure how they're saving face with the $5M. If Tuberville demanded payment for this alleged contract violation, he would look like a whiney bitch that turned his back on his team. A greedy, whiney bitch that wants $5M to sit on his ass. How does auburn look bad?

But, at the end of the day the overlying premise is that auburn is willing to hand the keys to their football program to a coach who appears to suck as a head coach, just to save face? Really? How much money is there in college football? We're talking about chump change in the grand scheme of things.

[Timmy Chang]

My favorite part is the "Who pays buyouts for resignations?" part. See Dennis Franchione.

Damn near every school that "fires" a coach does this.

[Thethreeyardout]

oh, I don't believe the email at all

but I do believe that the viable coaching alternatives to Tubberville gave Auburn the collective finger due to the meddling of that one guy that went looking for another coach while he still had one coaching the team - behind his back.

I hope Tubberville did do something like this to fuck these guys back.

Nobody deserves that and that is how you end up with Gene Chizik as your coach.

[Timmy Chang]

Agree completely.

[BohunkAg]

yeah, totally agree with yards. Sounds like the story has holes, but there's not much doubt that what really did happen was fucked up nine ways to Sunday and Auburn deserves what it gets, especially that Louder joker.

[Sooner Born]

Get the popcorn, get comfortable, and let me tell you a tale

If someone ever said that to me in person, I would kick them in the junk so hard the dude would have peen breath for life. The fact that he typed it makes it even worse...and yes, I believe it's just that, a tale.