it really is a sad fucking day
#1
Posted 04 November 2008 - 10:03 PM
#2
Posted 04 November 2008 - 11:19 PM
#3
Posted 04 November 2008 - 11:40 PM

#4
Posted 04 November 2008 - 11:49 PM
#5
Posted 04 November 2008 - 11:55 PM
No way he can deliver on any of his promises.
#6
Posted 05 November 2008 - 12:11 AM
No way he can deliver on any of his promises.
Bull fucking shit. The media will be sucking this guys dick for awhile. They have AT LEAST 2 years of Bush blaming left in them.
#7
Posted 05 November 2008 - 12:18 AM
No one from the media has investigated Obama yet. We still don't know what we have on our hands. The truth is going to be scary.
Obama makes the Clintons look like John Birchers. He is the most liberal president ever. If he implements his ideas, our country will truly be rocked from its foundation. Almost everything he stands for is contrary to what our founding fathers stood for.
That is not an exaggerration.
#8
Posted 05 November 2008 - 12:29 AM
No one from the media has investigated Obama yet. We still don't know what we have on our hands. The truth is going to be scary.
Obama makes the Clintons look like John Birchers. He is the most liberal president ever. If he implements his ideas, our country will truly be rocked from its foundation. Almost everything he stands for is contrary to what our founding fathers stood for.
That is not an exaggerration.
If there is any silver lining for the rest of us tonite, consider this:
*Political parties that hold all the power always overreach. Always. When they overreach, they piss people off.
*Public financing of campaigns is history. The Republican candidate will have almost unlimited funds for 2012.
*Sarah Palin is a future superstar for the GOP. She actually got better as the campaign went on. Keep an eye on Bobby Jindal too.
*Politically, Hillary is dead.
#9
Posted 05 November 2008 - 12:41 AM
#10
Posted 05 November 2008 - 02:11 AM
But now you will be getting it in the ass physically and metaphorically. Mostly because your grandad's wealth will not be passed to you.
#11
Posted 05 November 2008 - 09:57 AM
*Political parties that hold all the power always overreach. Always. When they overreach, they piss people off.
*Public financing of campaigns is history. The Republican candidate will have almost unlimited funds for 2012.
*Sarah Palin is a future superstar for the GOP. She actually got better as the campaign went on. Keep an eye on Bobby Jindal too.
*Politically, Hillary is dead.
Moe is right.
I for one am tired of all this "oh, the country is fucked, we're all fucked" shit. Sounds like colin_jb on Liucci's board. This country has made it for 200+ years. If Obama is as bad as we all think he is, it'll show itself soon enough. Plus, I'm tired of all the whining. Just makes all the Republicans sound like Democrats. We just need to suck it up and fucking see what happens...nothing else we CAN do.
Edited by BohunkAg, 05 November 2008 - 09:58 AM.
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Posted 05 November 2008 - 10:25 AM

#13
Posted 05 November 2008 - 10:38 AM

#14
Posted 05 November 2008 - 10:54 AM
You're right. Tensions will be higher than in the 60's.
#15
Posted 05 November 2008 - 10:57 AM
Yeah, or paying for druggies' healthcare, illegals healthcare, tax credits for the do nothing people, pet projects for ACORN, abortions for the poor, etc.
#16
Posted 05 November 2008 - 11:49 AM
The key here is patience. After all the parades, speeches and Inaugural Balls there will come a moment when Obama will have to get down to the hard business of governing. There will be moments: when he gets his first National Security Briefing from the State Department, when he presents his first budget to Congress, that the people of this country will see him for what he is:not The Messiah but a politician who now has to make tough decisions and govern. That means cutting taxes here, raising them there, pissing off this group or that one. While his True Believers will never change their mind about him, at some point the scales will fall off the eyes of much of the public and the grumbling will start. That's why patience is necessary, wait until he is revealed for what he is and at that point fight him; fight him on every stupid idea he and the Dems come up with. How do you do that? Not by throwing Ns or veiled references to "black welfare queens" but by contributing to and supporting the Republican Party. My Mom did this during the Clinton years, everytime Slick Willie did something she disapproved of, she fired off another check to the GOP. Don't like Obama? Fight his ass. Support your local GOP with dollars and votes. He will overreach, he will piss people off, he will be revealed for what he is; a 60s-style radical. When the ice starts to crack under his feat, and it will, make sure there's a strong GOP to make sure he's beat and stays beaten.
Fuck the Jackass Party, I ain't given up by a damn sight.
Edited by HeyMoe, 05 November 2008 - 11:50 AM.
#17
Posted 05 November 2008 - 12:08 PM
Now back to the real world. It's traditional that a new president get a honeymoon of some indefinite length. It's also traditional for Republicans (and many conservatives) to act as Charlie Brown to Lucy with the football.
Obama will get the most lavish and extended honeymoon in history. Every time he walks to the podium without falling down will be trumpeted as the greatest accomplishment since MacArthur returned to the Philippines. It will be the natural tendency of Republicans to join in the praise, and worse, to try to be "bipartisan" when it comes to legislation that is manifestly bad for the country and abhorrent to conservative principles. This tendency will be magnified by the Republicans' fear that any opposition to Obama's policies will be portrayed as motivated by racism rather than principle.
Senator McCain is an American hero, a remarkable man. I can think of few I respect more. But he's likely to be the first to be leading the charge toward bipartisanship. This would be a mistake of galactic proportions. This must be resisted.
It's all well and good for Republicans to congratulate Obama today, and on Inauguration Day. The GOP shouldn't oppose merely for the sake of opposition. But if they were paying any attention to what Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Rangel, Schumer, etc, have been saying over the last year, they should realize that on the major issues of the day, liberals are determined to take the nation down a hard left path that will, in the words of Obama, "fundamentally transform" America.
Republicans and conservatives will be taking a needed hard look at ourselves. Losers usually do. We must reassess, recalibrate and argue.
But in the meantime, we still have principles to defend and we must defend them vigorously. Particularly in the first 100 days when many of the most objectionable bills will likely be brought up.
For those inclined to make nice, which of the following Democratic agenda items are you prepared to sign on to so that you'll get invited to the right parties?
* Employee Free Choice Act
* Fairness Doctrine
* Freedom of Choice Act
* Nationalization of health care
* Estate tax increases
* "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" (driver's licenses for illegals)
* Capital gains tax increases
* Defense cuts
* Liberal judicial appointments
* Racial and ethnic preferences
* Income tax increases
* Bans on oil drilling
* Global poverty tax/Kyoto
These are but a few. Perhaps the most worrisome agenda items are those that will betray a fecklessness in foreign policy that could lead to a nuclear Iran, a vulnerable Israel, an imperial Russia, and an imploding Pakistan.
In many cases, the congressional math may preclude Republicans from little more than voicing principled opposition. But that's not nothing. It's imperative. Republican politicians for too long have been spectacularly inept in communicating their ideas, principles and positions. They've been unconscionably silent in defending their own. They shouldn't then be surprised when they get their hindquarters handed to them.
Last night was Obama's night. January 20th too. Watch for genuine opportunities to work together for the betterment of the country. But on every other occasion fight. Fight every attempt to entrench a new entitlement. Fight every attempt to redistribute wealth. Fight every attempt to radicalize the courts. Fight every attempt to weaken our defenses. Fight every attempt to restrict political speech. Fight every attempt to revise history. Fight for what's best about America.
#18
Posted 05 November 2008 - 12:27 PM
This shit is unquestionably true.....the thing that pisses me off about the Republican party....beginning with Gingrich and continuing through today.
#19
Posted 05 November 2008 - 12:43 PM
I think it is pathetic that our electorate is so uneducated that they would elect a person they know nothing about, all in the name of: a. skin color, b. handouts, c. Bush derangement, or d. Change.
Obama has not released a lot of info about himself that every previous presidential candidate in history has released. He is not who he says he is, but dumbasses just gave him the most powerful job in the world.
#20
Posted 05 November 2008 - 01:03 PM
#21
Posted 05 November 2008 - 01:14 PM
Actually Gingrich was the last national Republican leader who could speak articulately and forcefully. The others, Dole, Bush and McCain all stumble around the English language like a drunk on a bender. That's one of the reasons I'm such a fan of Palin, she can give a speech well and motivate people. I thought her speech at the GOP convention was better than Obama's at his.
Edited by HeyMoe, 05 November 2008 - 01:14 PM.
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Posted 05 November 2008 - 05:17 PM
#23
Posted 05 November 2008 - 08:49 PM
Come on surf.....you can't sit there and say that of the black people that voted, that 97% of them didn't vote for Obama. There were so many people that came out and voted strictly because he was black. I'm not trying to be an idiot racist like Hostile, but quite a few of the black voters would not even be able to tell you anything about Obama's policies. There were so many people that voted strictly based on skin color that have likely never voted before this.
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Posted 05 November 2008 - 09:45 PM

#25
Posted 05 November 2008 - 10:19 PM
it was pretty amusing to see entire groups of people get extremely excited that they were going to vote...as if this is the first time in history they have been afforded that opportunity. didn't see those folks out in numbers 4 years ago...or 8...or 12. they didn't appear to be too concerned about policies that would impact their lives before the last few months and there is no veiling why that was different in this election.
i hope these next 4 years work out great for the country. and, if they don't, i hope nothing is fucked up too badly that it cannot be repaired.
#26
Posted 05 November 2008 - 10:29 PM
#27
Posted 05 November 2008 - 10:33 PM
exactly. 4 years from now. my thoughts on politics will be the exact same as they are now: i. don't. give. a. shit.
some of you can get all worked up over a bunch of out of touch with reality motherfuckers who waste our money and tax us some more. i choose to not give a shit cause life is too fucking short to bother over shit you can't control. only thing i'm concerned with is not fucking up at work and getting fired and raising my daughter and spending time with my wife. i do those and the rest will take care of itself as far as other things i care about. fuck the other shit cause i'm too busy with my life to care. i live a simple life and i'm happy - all that matters to me

#28
Posted 05 November 2008 - 10:36 PM
Now that I'm forty and now officially a man, all politicians fuck the voters straight up the asshole like ultra in a waffle house john.
#29
Posted 05 November 2008 - 11:23 PM
#30
Posted 05 November 2008 - 11:45 PM
some of you can get all worked up over a bunch of out of touch with reality motherfuckers who waste our money and tax us some more. i choose to not give a shit cause life is too fucking short to bother over shit you can't control. only thing i'm concerned with is not fucking up at work and getting fired and raising my daughter and spending time with my wife. i do those and the rest will take care of itself as far as other things i care about. fuck the other shit cause i'm too busy with my life to care. i live a simple life and i'm happy - all that matters to me
I am very involved in the political process...somebody has to be. I couldn't care less that a black man got elected. I guess I should say that I am glad we are in a time when it could happen, but I am much more worried about his policies than his pigmentation. It bothers the hell out of me that he was voted in by people who don't know anything about him.
FYI, it looks like the electoral college may require Obama to provide proof of citizenship. If by some chance it is determined that Obama is not eligible to become President, there truly will be rioting in the streets.
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