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[surf]

if you could go back, would you still be for letting him go or would you be willing to see what he could do the following year with sumlin as OC and reggie?

[BohunkAg]

if you could go back, would you still be for letting him go or would you be willing to see what he could do the following year with sumlin as OC and reggie?

I'd still let him go. Talent level in '03 was going to be similar to what it is this year and we were in for a 6-6, 7-5 type season. I think RC was getting slammed in recruiting by Stoops and Mack and was basically out of his league. We were right in trying to get a guy to take us to the next level, we just picked the wrong one.

[jasonbaconAg91]

personally, i would have been for letting him have another year.... i mean, he NEVER had a losing season, sumlin was going to make a pretty good OC and the recruiting class that he had lined up was pretty stout at the time.... JMO

[houstontexan]

tough question.

honestly, i'd have let him have his horrible 03 campaign...but the more you think about it...man, that's a tough one.

i wouldn't have minded plucking sumlin for head coach but know byrne, we'd have put him on a 15 year, 2.5 m guaranteed contract.

[HeyMoe]

I wanted him gone after 2001. That loss to tech in Lubbock was an ender for me. I dismissed his excuse of recruiting being hurt by our facilities being behind the Horns.

That said, in retrospect I think he should have been allowed to stay another two years; the new facilities came on line in 2003 and he had a brilliant talent at QB and a good offensive coordinator to coach him. RC had quite a great rep among Texas high school coaches and I think he may have been able to get the program rolling again.

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

i'd still want him gone. we should, however, have hired this guy.

[surf]

who's to say he'd have panned out? i think he would have but the talent level wasn't even close to what he inherited at florida. zook can't coach for shit but he can recruit like a motherfucker. it's have taken meyer longer to get shit started at A&M. this thread isn't a bait thread or anything, i was just thinking about it so i decided to see who would and who wouldn't.

i'd give RC a year with knowledge that if improvement wasn't shown that he would have to step aside. i really think they were about to be on something good offensively with sumlin calling the shots. l also think guys like warren flood and even ta ta would have both stayed and been a lot better under RC. his defense was what they were suited for not fran's style

[Timmy Chang]

who's to say he'd have panned out? i think he would have but the talent level wasn't even close to what he inherited at florida. zook can't coach for shit but he can recruit like a motherfucker. it's have taken meyer longer to get shit started at A&M. this thread isn't a bait thread or anything, i was just thinking about it so i decided to see who would and who wouldn't.

i'd give RC a year with knowledge that if improvement wasn't shown that he would have to step aside. i really think they were about to be on something good offensively with sumlin calling the shots. l also think guys like warren flood and even ta ta would have both stayed and been a lot better under RC. his defense was what they were suited for not fran's style

You're absolutely right. The talent levels were extremely high at Bowling Green, Utah, and Florida when urban took over.

If confronted with the alternative as it played out, I'd give RC another six years (to date) and a fucking blank check. It couldn't have unfolded any worse.

[BQ_90]

Nope, imo he should have been gone after losing to tOSU in the Sugarbowl.

[houstontexan]

If confronted with the alternative as it played out, I'd give RC another six years (to date) and a fucking blank check. It couldn't have unfolded any worse.

true. it just got frustrating watching a coach who had completely lost his fire. he was truly just excited to stay in bowl games and the recruiting just got horrible.

but i agree w/ timmy. it truly wouldn't have been too much worse but RC's sake, he never really had to bottom out and it saves his perception.

[BQ_90]

losing bowl after bowl sucked the live outta most Aggies. Fran just killed whatever feeling was left.

I'm getting to a point now where I don't think we'll ever be good again.

That's why I can't wait for some Aggie Baseball.

[surf]

Nope, imo he should have been gone after losing to tOSU in the Sugarbowl.

you do realize Ohio State was touted as the 05 trojans that year right?

You're absolutely right. The talent levels were extremely high at Bowling Green, Utah, and Florida when urban took over.

i was referring to florida with my comments and they did have a lot more talent when he got there than A&M. they won the national title with mostly players that were there when he came

[BQ_90]

you do realize Ohio State was touted as the 05 trojans that year right?
i was referring to florida with my comments and they did have a lot more talent when he got there than A&M. they won the national title with mostly players that were there when he came

touted, no I didn't know that, did they even win the B10 that year (why where they not in the Rose Bowl)?

We should have won that game. That was my breaking point. After several Cotton Bowl loses, the Sugar Bowl was the last straw. I realized then that RC had taken the program as far as it could.

You make changes before shit COMPLETELY falls apart. Something the Ags in charge have never figured out. Look the horns didn't hesitate to pull the plug on Mackovic. Maybe not the same but just how I felt at the time. We should have canned fran AFTER the '05 season, we go 2 more years. Fuck we never give up on a coach going nowhere. Maybe it's karma for running off Bellard like we did.

[houstontexan]

you do realize Ohio State was touted as the 05 trojans that year right?

a&m was VERY VERY strong and had just knocked off the BEST team in the nation that year on a virtual road game.

punting on a 4th and 7 from midfield down by 8 or whatever w/ 3 min on the clock was what finally just made me hate the guy.

[BQ_90]

a&m was VERY VERY strong and had just knocked off the BEST team in the nation that year on a virtual road game.

punting on a 4th and 7 from midfield down by 8 or whatever w/ 3 min on the clock was what finally just made me hate the guy.

don't mention that fucking punt

I hadn't been that pissed since the fumble outta the endzone against FSU in the Cotton Bowl

[BYU Born (roveram)]

I was in the stands right by that fucking fumble.

[Timmy Chang]

i was referring to florida with my comments and they did have a lot more talent when he got there than A&M. they won the national title with mostly players that were there when he came

I know what you were referring to, which is the reason I cited Urban's success at both Bowling Green and Utah.

[surf]

i think urban would have done a helluva job at A&M. i just think talent wise, he would have had to take longer. offensively, A&M would have been pretty good. defensively, it would have been a little work involved. that year RC only took gamble on defense hurt big time. dantonio from mich st would have been a strong hire had they let fran go 2 years earlier. that guy coaching cincy now is gonna make someone very happy when they hire him away.

[jasonbaconAg91]

I was in the stands right by that fucking fumble.

so was I..... 9th row, in the corner of the end zone, freezing my hungover ass off......

[BohunkAg]

You're absolutely right. The talent levels were extremely high at Bowling Green, Utah, and Florida when urban took over.

If confronted with the alternative as it played out, I'd give RC another six years (to date) and a fucking blank check. It couldn't have unfolded any worse.

Confronted with the alternative, yes....I would've kept RC....but then we didn't know that in 2002. I would fire his ass again knowing what I know, I'd just have wished we'd made a better hire to replace him.

[Agent]

My opinion on this subject is well documented.

RC Slocum was the best coach we ever had. And he was an Aggie. We won't find better. And we deserve what happened to our program to think we were entitled to better.