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[houstontexan]

that was slid under the rug pretty discretely.

[houstontexan]

no fify's on the sexual inuendos (sp?)

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

that was slid under the rug pretty discretely.

the ncaa is as corrupt as they come these days. too much money is being made in college athletics for them to do anything to anybody.

[BohunkAg]

the ncaa is as corrupt as they come these days. too much money is being made in college athletics for them to do anything to anybody.

Yup.

[houstontexan]

all you have to do is look at the dvorcek vs. keelan jackson SR years to get an idea what a fucking disaster that organization is.

their priorities are so fucked up its not even funny.

[BohunkAg]

all you have to do is look at the dvorcek vs. keelan jackson SR years to get an idea what a fucking disaster that organization is.

their priorities are so fucked up its not even funny.

I had forgotten all about the fact that Keelan Jackson petitioned at the same time as Dvoracek.

Dammit. Thanks for pissing me off all over again. That was pretty fucked up.

[houstontexan]

that was seriously so fucked up. one kid gets hurt his 5th year in the 2nd game. one fucking gets fucked up on God knows what, beats his roommate within an inch of death.......


ah, yes....the moral beacon that is the national collegiate athletic association.


i guess there are programs that are pretty much untouchable:

texas
ohio state
michigan
ou
usc
ucla
bama

you've got be caught red handed committing absolute murder for any of these schools to get ****. hell, many thought bama should have been considered for the death penalty after their recent infractions. considering the crime, it was a slap on the wrist.

[surf]

you can take these 2 off the list.

ohio state
michigan


both got hit pretty hard for violations in the last 8 years or so. the fab 5 never existed and the Buckeye's 99 final four is no longer counted either. troy smith got more punishment from OSU than the ncaa was going to dish out so they accepted OSU's punishment

[BohunkAg]

I think you can add Miami, Florida, Florida State (though not lately), and perhaps a couple other SEC schools (LSU comes to mind) to that list.

[BYU Born (roveram)]

I think it's time to add A&M to that list. I'm fucking sick of seeing the OU's of the world cheat, get ahead and get away with it.

We need to get back in the cheating business.

[houstontexan]

both got hit pretty hard for violations in the last 8 years or so.

OSU's football program has gone mostly unscathed with some infractions that mirror, if not overshadow, a&m's from the early 90's.

michigan basically bought the fab 5. it was like bama with bball but on a grander scale %-wise. pretty f'n severe and the evidence was gathered by the feds. they couldn't get away with doing nothing in that deal. they had to take down some banners.

kinda seems that they're untouchable as long as nothing just absolutely so fucking over the top happens, see bama, fab 5, etc.

what went down with troy smith?

[surf]

troy took like $200 or so from a dentist or got free dental work - something like that. tressel made him pay it back and suspended him for a couple of games. the ncaa was only going to make him pay back the money and sit out the bowl game. they accepted OSU's punishment since it was more severe. no other violations other than the clarrett deal and he made that shit up. they got in big shit in bball with obrien and the only reason the ncaa took it easy on them was because obrien lied and went through great lengths to cover it up and not let them know he was cheating. they got hit on some other shit in different sports too.

michigan ran a clean ship under carr. rrod won't be able to do some of the shit he got away with at wvu though because he's already pissed off a lot of the alumni and boosters plus he doesn't have any friends amongst his coaching brethren in the big ten. they'll nail his ass 1st chance they get

[houstontexan]

what's the deal with rrod in ann arbor with him pissing people off? saw their center transferred to fucking ohio state.

guy left WVU pretty shadily with the document shredding and such.

also, what games did tsmith sit out? he played in their bowl game vs UF, though, right?

[surf]

this happened his soph year. he had to sit out the bowl game and every game the following year up to the texas game which he was not allowed to start nor play the majority of the snaps. the fanbase blamed tressell for the loss because he platooned zwick and smith every other series if i remember correctly. of course it didn't help that texas kept giving OSU the ball in scoring range and all they could do was come away with fieldgoals (credit to the horn D). that dropped TD pass by the OSU tight end was crucial too. he catches it and texas probably doesn't have a national title that year


rrod has done a bunch of shit and publicly blasted the players who have left. he didn't have nice things to say about mallet, maningham (who cited rrod as the reason he went pro) and the other receiver who went pro early. plus he's taken a lot of shots in the media at the other big ten coaches. i doubt they'll call off the dogs if they're up big on michigan next year. him and dickwad at neutered dame should be best friends. both are 2 peas in the same pod

[Tex Pete]

i guess there are programs that are pretty much untouchable:

texas
ohio state
michigan
ou
usc
ucla
bama

Sounds good. What have we done?

If you wonder why Texas fans often think Aggies are delusional, your post is a prime example.

Edited by Tex Pete, 27 April 2008 - 10:57 PM.

[houstontexan]

let off probation in the eighties for "good behavior."

[houstontexan]

just as most texas fans that cite a&m's rampant cheating, none of which was proven against sherrill, if you actually let them know they were put on probation during the same time frame, they seem fairly shocked. what's not shocking is that they didn't serve the entire probation term.

the same **** that happened to a&m with gilbert was a widespread practice with the horns as well, including one of my sister's friends who actually mentioned the practice in her rush informational.

lets just say the NCAA has programs they don't investigate unless its just downright blatantly obvious that something's going on and then the punishments aren't exactly on a level playing field in many cases either. most of the best examples were from the 80's and early 90's, and for the record, texas is running a very clean program now, even with the arrests and whatnot which i consider 100% the fault of the players.

[Tex Pete]

a&m's rampant cheating, none of which was proven against sherrill, if you actually let them know they were put on probation during the same time frame, they seem fairly shocked. what's not shocking is that they didn't serve the entire probation term.

Of course, Sherrill jumped ship before the shit really hit the fan. Eric Dickerson's maroon TA was pretty damning evidence.

Texas was on probation for players selling complimentary tickets. Not too bad. I am not saying they didn't do more, but they weren't caught. I just think for Aggies to go off on Horns about cheating is disingenuous at best.

I personally knew a receiver(I think that's what he played) from Round Rock who was given a Jeep by the Aggies in the mid-90s. I can't remember that motherfucker's name to save my life, but I can damn sure picture the Jeep. It was very common knowledge among his friends where the Jeep came from. I didn't rat him out because I didn't give a fuck. He was a cool guy, so it was OK by me.

[surf]

way i see it, if you can do it and get away with it; more power to you. everybody cheats to one extent or another. it's the ones who get caught who are the ones everyone hears about. roy williams cheated at kansas. coach k cheated at duke (didn't get caught but all the local media knows about the avery SUV story which is why he went pro early even though he had no business in the draft). mack cheated at unc (know this personally and don't need to verify if it's a rumor or not). every one knows Jackie cheated. he was just slick enough that he couldn't get implicated.

[houstontexan]

Texas was on probation for players selling complimentary tickets. Not too bad. I am not saying they didn't do more, but they weren't caught. I just think for Aggies to go off on Horns about cheating is disingenuous at best.

not going off about horns cheating. going off on the NCAA's practice of fishing with an empty hook and leveling its penalities and inconsistencies which appear in that context.

[BQ_90]

not going off about horns cheating. going off on the NCAA's practice of fishing with an empty hook and leveling its penalities and inconsistencies which appear in that context.

Hammer meets fucking nail

[Tex Pete]

I think the NCAA then vs. now is not comparable.

While the Aggies get hit by the heavy hammer, several schools did at the time. SMU got hit the hardest, and everything really changed.

What OU has recently gotten away with and what USC is currently getting away with are no different than the things A&M got nailed for. It disgusts me. To include Texas in that category, in any way, is horribly wrong.

[BQ_90]

I think the NCAA then vs. now is not comparable.

While the Aggies get hit by the heavy hammer, several schools did at the time. SMU got hit the hardest, and everything really changed.

What OU has recently gotten away with and what USC is currently getting away with are no different than the things A&M got nailed for. It disgusts me. To include Texas in that category, in any way, is horribly wrong.

Your right, they aren't laying down any real penalties. Honestly if you don't ban a team from tv or bowls, then don't even bother.

[houstontexan]

What OU has recently gotten away with and what USC is currently getting away with are no different than the things A&M got nailed for.

ut did the EXACT same thing.

like i said, we'll see if OU or USC end up getting banned for TV and a bowl for a year.

[Thethreeyardout]

As long as no Colorado punt returners are in the winter Olympics and Aaron Ross has to sit out a year of school to retake a 10th grade English class that didn't transfer to his new school, even though he aced 11th and 12th grade English, the NCAA is doing its job.


I didn't read everything above my post, but to say UT did the EXACT SAME THING as a sports agent paying the mortgage on a home in Southern California for one of our players is not being intellectually honest.


Our compliance people are pretty much on a which hunt for ANY sign of impropriety such as this as there is SO MUCH to lose if we are caught doing any thing like that.

Edited by Thethreeyardout, 01 May 2008 - 02:45 PM.

[houstontexan]

I didn't read everything above my post, but to say UT did the EXACT SAME THING as a sports agent paying the mortgage on a home in Southern California for one of our players is not being intellectually honest.

a&m had guys getting paid and not working. ut had guys getting paid and not working. ou had guys getting paid and not working.

i was saying those are the same things. ut wouldn't have ever been investigated, but all one has to do is look at the resulting punishments to see the inconsistencies in leveling the punishments.

looks like USC is going to get off on this deal with no troubles at all.

[Tex Pete]

a&m had guys getting paid and not working. ut had guys getting paid and not working. ou had guys getting paid and not working.

What I am saying is what A&M got caught for then is the same thing OU recently got caught for. UT was never caught for it (whether they did it or not).

I was making a comparison between the punishments then and now for the same violations...which do not compare.

[houstontexan]

i just think its odd they're soooo fucking disproportional and its not by mistake.

[surf]

have you heard about mayo?

[houstontexan]

i'm shocked.

the only thing that would shock me more is if bob huggins falls off the wagon.